Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/12/2004 01:35 PM Senate L&C

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             SB 254-TOURISM & RECREATION ASSESSMENT                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CON BUNDE announced SB 254 to be up for consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOE BALASH, Staff to Senator Therriault, sponsor, said:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     SB 254 is  an effort to generate and  identify a source                                                                    
     of funding  for cooperative marketing for  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska.  For  years,  the  tourism  industry  has  been                                                                    
     asking  for  an  increase  in  state  marketing  money.                                                                    
     However, due to  the lack of general  fund dollars, the                                                                    
     Legislature, as  a general rule, has  been reluctant to                                                                    
     provide  those dollars  unless the  industry identifies                                                                    
     some means to pay for that effort.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
This  legislation was  developed  at the  request  of the  Alaska                                                               
Travel  Industry  Association (ATIA)  and  is  intended to  be  a                                                               
fairly broad based  tax within the tourism  industry, intended to                                                               
affect  tourists and  only affecting  residents when  they behave                                                               
like a tourist. Surveys conducted  by the state and industry show                                                               
that non-cruise  visitors to the  state have been  declining over                                                               
the past couple of years and  the businesses that depend on those                                                               
numbers are suffering as a result.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  noted a proposed  committee substitute, but  he hoped                                                               
to  have a  better  one available  by next  week.  He offered  to                                                               
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked committee members  to not deal  with specifics                                                               
since a  committee substitute  was being  prepared. He  asked Mr.                                                               
Balash to address the dedicated funds issue.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH responded  that generated  funds  would be  deposited                                                               
into a sub-account in the  general fund, although the Legislature                                                               
is not bound  to appropriate the funds for the  purpose stated in                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY  STEVENS asked how  the money would be  spent. Would                                                               
it go to an association or a board?                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH replied:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Under  current   statute,  the  state  enters   into  a                                                                    
     marketing contract with  a qualified trade association.                                                                    
     In this  instance, that is  the Alaska  Travel Industry                                                                    
     Association.   That   contractual   relationship   will                                                                    
     continue. Whatever  funds the  Legislature appropriates                                                                    
     for marketing  would be appropriated to  the Department                                                                    
     of Community  and Economic Development for  the purpose                                                                    
     of  entering   into  a  contract  under   the  existing                                                                    
     statutes for that purpose.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  industry had any  oversight as  to how                                                               
the money is spent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  replied that statutes  governing the  qualified trade                                                               
association  say  that expenditures  must  be  broadly based  and                                                               
representative  of the  industry  within the  state. The  current                                                               
board of directors for the association does that quite well.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOLLIS  FRENCH said this  is essentially a 2  percent tax                                                               
that will be added on to the bill a tourist will pay.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH replied that is  essentially correct and the committee                                                               
substitute will identify which activities  the assessment will be                                                               
collected  from.  The  legislation  calls  this  the  Sustainable                                                               
Tourism and Recreation  Assessment Act and it  is recognized that                                                               
some of the activities are going  to be conducted by residents of                                                               
the state. The ATIA is  charged with developing instate marketing                                                               
- to  get people from  the Interior to  come to Anchorage  and to                                                               
get people from Anchorage to go to the Kenai, etc.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  if this  leaves the  cruise ship  industry                                                               
alone.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  replied that  is correct  and added  that it  is very                                                               
difficult   to  assess   intrastate  transportation   activities.                                                               
Airline  passengers, for  instance, can't  be charged  for flying                                                               
over a state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RON  PECK, President  and  Chief  Operating Officer,  Alaska                                                               
Travel  Industry Association  (ATIA), supported  SB 254.  He said                                                               
that Alaska needs  to double its marketing budget  to $20 million                                                               
and have a strong presence in the marketplace.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He said that tourism  is down to flat in most  of Alaska and that                                                               
independent travel has  decreased for the past  two years. Border                                                               
crossings have decreased by 8  percent from 120,000 passengers to                                                               
109,000 and  airport arrivals  and departures  at the  four major                                                               
airports have  decreased by 3.5  percent (115,000  passengers) in                                                               
the summer.  The Legislature  has asked  ATIA to  come up  with a                                                               
plan for more funding and  SB 254 identifies the funding sources.                                                               
The  sources are  broad based  and  impact a  variety of  tourism                                                               
industry   sectors  including   tourism-related  activities   and                                                               
attractions. It does not ask for increased general funds.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PECK  explained that the assessments  in SB 254 are  based on                                                               
the Alaska  Seafood Marketing Institute  (ASMI) model,  which has                                                               
previously  been  adopted  by   the  Legislature.  Adopting  this                                                               
assessment is a good business  decision and a good investment for                                                               
state  tourism.  Federal statutes  do  not  allow assessments  to                                                               
apply  to transportation  via air  or cruise  ship, but  ATIA has                                                               
estimated that over  40 percent of the  activities being assessed                                                               
are attributable to the cruise ship passengers.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BETTYE ADAMS,  owner, Alaskan Hotel and Bar,  opposed SB 254.                                                               
She declared:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     It would be harmful to  my business, because the cruise                                                                    
     ships are just  floating hotels. They are  not going to                                                                    
     have a  tax placed on  them; I already have  12 percent                                                                    
     on me. This is going to  be 14 [percent] and who knows,                                                                    
     some  more might  be put.  If  you do  pass it,  please                                                                    
     exempt  hotels  so  that it  makes  the  playing  field                                                                    
     level.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS said  there is no guarantee that any  of the assessment                                                               
would be used to advertise  for small independent businesses like                                                               
hers  and  cruise  ships  are already  spending  $70  million  on                                                               
advertising. Further, she asserted:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I do not believe that it  is a lack of advertising that                                                                    
     is  causing our  decline.  I think  it  is because  the                                                                    
     cruise  ships are  up 9  percent and  we're down....  I                                                                    
     think cruise ships are our  competition and are sucking                                                                    
     our business  over because they  are a better  deal. We                                                                    
     can't compete with them fairly.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     My   second   point   is  I   don't   believe   it   is                                                                    
     constitutional. I got  this memorandum from Legislative                                                                    
     Services. It was asked for  by [Senator] Ben Stevens on                                                                    
     November 18, 2003 on the  model they are forming, which                                                                    
     is the ASMI model.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS explained  that the  memo makes  two points  about why                                                               
this type of assessment is  unconstitutional and that, "The power                                                               
of taxation shall never be surrendered."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Assessment is just  another word for taxes imposed  by the state,                                                               
she said, and  the memo indicated it might  constitute an invalid                                                               
delegation  of   the  Legislature's  taxing  powers.   Under  the                                                               
Constitution,  you  can  only  delegate  taxing  authority  to  a                                                               
borough  or city.  The  Alaska  Supreme Court  in  State v.  Alex                                                               
(1982) says  that the Legislature  did not have the  authority to                                                               
authorize  regional associations  to  approve  or disapprove  the                                                               
imposition of assessments.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  said the dedicated  funds issue applies in  this case.                                                               
The memo from Legal and  Research Services Division said that the                                                               
use of  the phrase "may  be appropriated  back", which is  in the                                                               
bill:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Potentially misleads  constituents to believe  that the                                                                    
     money  from the  taxes  and assessments  that they  pay                                                                    
     will be  used only for certain  purposes. Therefore, it                                                                    
     creates  a   moral  obligation  on  the   part  of  the                                                                    
     legislators to  appropriate the money for  the specific                                                                    
     purpose, which may, in  effect, violate the prohibition                                                                    
     against dedicated funds.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  also remarked that she  is an ATIA member  and was not                                                               
ever asked if she approved  of the assessment, which was approved                                                               
at a  convention, which she  and a lot  of other members  did not                                                               
attend.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHIP THOMA,  Juneau resident, said that  tourism taxation has                                                               
been  very successful  for  the last  five  years, especially  in                                                               
Southeast Alaska. He remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     There has  been a  dramatic increase  in the  number of                                                                    
     passengers traveling  on the  largest of  cruise ships.                                                                    
     What was recently projected as  a 9 percent increase in                                                                    
     passenger  numbers for  2004  was actually  a  15 -  20                                                                    
     percent  increase just  a few  years ago.  Soon, as  we                                                                    
     reach 1 million  passengers coming into this  town, a 5                                                                    
     percent  increase will  be huge  and this  occurs on  a                                                                    
     yearly basis.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMA  related how Juneau  voters authorized a  $5 individual                                                               
passenger fee  that helped  upgrade downtown  Juneau. The  use of                                                               
the  fee for  these capital  improvements on  the waterfront  has                                                               
been a  huge success  for residents,  businesses and  the 800,000                                                               
cruise ship tourists who visit here. However, he said:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     I respectfully  disagreed with SB  254 that there  is a                                                                    
     need  to further  market tourism  to Southeast  Alaska.                                                                    
     Summer  tourism here  is not  wild  Alaska salmon.  The                                                                    
     state does not  need to help sell the  product. The big                                                                    
     tour  companies,  cruise   lines,  airlines  and  local                                                                    
     visitor bureaus already promote  travel here on a daily                                                                    
     basis  -  and  newspapers,  magazines  and  commercials                                                                    
     nationwide. The  individual passenger fee on  the other                                                                    
     hand,  also  known as  the  cruise  ship head  tax,  is                                                                    
     passed  on directly  to the  passenger,  just like  the                                                                    
     surtax  for an  airport rental  car. No  one complains,                                                                    
     it's easy to collect and easy to explain...                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     However, SB 254, a statewide  sales tax on local Alaska                                                                    
     businesses   to  pay   for  generic   come-visit-Alaska                                                                    
     advertising,  does  not  address  the  local  needs  to                                                                    
     provide clean,  safe and beautiful waterfronts  for all                                                                    
     these  folks to  visit.  I urge  you  to reexamine  the                                                                    
     purposes of  this assessment  in the  bill, as  well as                                                                    
     the  target tax  group  of local  mom  and pop  tourist                                                                    
     businesses....                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCOTT REISLAND,  campground owner  at Denali  National Park,                                                               
said  four  generations   of  his  family  have   worked  at  his                                                               
campground and  he supported  SB 254.  He felt  that it  was very                                                               
important to  have marketing  dollars to  help bring  people into                                                               
the  state.  The Alaska  Campground  Association  polled all  the                                                               
small  campgrounds over  the state  and found  that numbers  were                                                               
down  17 percent  for the  last three  years. He  felt this  bill                                                               
would help  many small  businesses throughout  Alaska, especially                                                               
in the Interior.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. DALE  FOX, Alaska's Best Birdy,  said that tourism is  on the                                                               
decline in Alaska except for the  cruise ship market. He said his                                                               
business  failed  as  a  direct  result  of  not  getting  enough                                                               
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independent visitors.  He said that Alaska  is 39  in  the nation                                                               
in terms of  dollars spent for marketing. "We've  got a long-haul                                                               
destination,  an expensive  destination  and we  need  to be  out                                                               
there in the marketplace."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOX said he found another  job, but he had five employees who                                                               
are  now out  of work  because his  business didn't  make it.  He                                                               
proclaimed:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This bill is  the right vehicle; there is  some work to                                                                    
     be  done   in  terms  of   some  of  the   wording  and                                                                    
     definitions,  but  it  is the  answer  for  independent                                                                    
     businesses all over the Interior....                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALAN LEMASTER,  Gakona resident, said in  the mid-80s, Alaska                                                               
had a good marketing technique and had the money to do it with.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     We  became  leaders  in  the  world.  We  were  gaining                                                                    
     visitors at the rate of 10,  11, and 12 percent a year.                                                                    
     Then the  dollars started to go  away.... The marketing                                                                    
     went down and  so did the customers....  Until the last                                                                    
     three  or  four years,  instead  of  gains, we've  seen                                                                    
     losses in  the number  of visitors.  My business  is in                                                                    
     rural Alaska and I am  very much affected by what comes                                                                    
     across the Canadian border....                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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MR. LEMASTER concluded  that there was no doubt in  his mind that                                                               
ATIA would  raise to the  challenge with additional  funding. His                                                               
concern was that $20 million might not be enough.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHN KREILKAMP,  Vice  President,  Operations, Cruise  West,                                                               
said  his company  has been  doing  things a  bit differently  in                                                               
Alaska in  terms of  cruising with seven  small ships  plying the                                                               
inside  passage visiting  small  communities, as  well as  larger                                                               
ones.  He said  they have  experienced  a 15  percent decline  in                                                               
business in the last two years and  he has had to lay people off.                                                               
He lamented:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Much of this  is because we are not  in the marketplace                                                                    
     in terms  of being competitive with  other destinations                                                                    
     whether they  are communities, states  or international                                                                    
     destinations. Cruise  West benefits from the  fact that                                                                    
     there [are] marketing dollars out there....                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KREILKAMP concluded by saying that he supports SB 254.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PAM LABOLLE,  President, Alaska  State Chamber  of Commerce,                                                               
said that  everyone is aware  that visitation to Alaska  has been                                                               
diminishing because  it is not  competitive in the  world tourism                                                               
marketplace.  She applauded  the  industry for  taking this  bold                                                               
step to assess itself and supported SB 254.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE thanked everyone for  their testimony and said SB 254                                                               
would be held  for further work. There being  no further business                                                               
to come  before the committee,  he adjourned the meeting  at 3:15                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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